♪ >> greg: i'm greg gutfeld with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, jesse watters and dana perino. "the five" ." as hillary continues through 2017 women scorned tour, allegations continue about an hour bearing creepy democratic leader who harasses women. but enough about her husband. today it is harvey weinstein who hillary finally addresses. >> i was just sick. i was shocked. i was appalled. it was something that was just

intolerable in every way. and you know, like so many people who have come forward and spoken out, this was a different side of a person who i and many others have known in the past. >> greg: excellent software but a little late, don't you think? some are hammering her for waiting so long. can you blame her? first harvey is a friend. wouldn't you have called him a friend? >> would you have called him a friend? >> yes, i probably would have been so would so many others. people in democratic politics for a couple decades appreciated his help and support. >> greg: yes. he poured money into campaigns, campaigns that offered him the ideal cover for his deplorable behavior. every pig gets a pass when you are progressive. i love how hillary says she will donate the money she got from

harvey. that's just recirculating the cash. why not give the money back? >> would you give the money back? >> there is no one to give the money back to. what my colleagues are saying is they are going to donate it to charity and of course that will do that. >> greg: she can't give the money back? yes, you can you write a check to harvey weinstein and send it to him. i suspect she will know where to find him. i also suspect he will need the money soon. it's hard for hillary to stand by a cad when she stood by one for so long. she is the personification of hollywood. it's hard to speak out when you tolerated such crap for decades. the woman who came out about bill was dismissed by you know who. she is not that different from hollywood a-listers who knew for years and treated details like baseball cards. this was not harvey secret. this was hollywood's secret. he was brazen about it. he never tried to hide it.

he assumed his politics and has power had him covered. and he was right. for a while. i have a theory, jesse. it might've been yours because i think i stole it from you. if hillary had been elected president, this story might not have broken because they would've been able to stop "the new york times" from running it. >> jesse: if it was my theory, it's definitely crazy. also right. i've got that covered. if she is so sick and appalled, why did she wait a week? she commented on the vegas shooting right away, the trump birth control order, she spoke out right away. the hurricane, the first day she came out and commented. it was an open secret and hillary is all too familiar with open secrets. also all the -- also why she

didn't react, no reporters asked her why -- every republican in congress. no one knocked on her door. no one wants her to say anything. yet bill clinton, anthony weiner, harvey weinstein. inappropriate men and hillary's orbit. i almost feel sorry for her. how did she treat the women that were bill's mistresses or victims of his alleged sexual misconduct. she, smear campaigns, intimidation. how about she tries to clean up and police hollywood? the casting couch culture. if she's a real feminist and a real, true icon who stands up for women's rights, you don't just move money around and send

this check to planned parenthood or emily's list. you hold a summit. you set up a hotline. you talk to the victims. you give a major speech in hollywood and you try to correct the culture. she's not doing that. she would earn herself a lot of respect and credibility and the way her husband did with the moment. and nixon going to china. if she served up for women's rights, i would say hillary, you are doing the right thing. >> greg: jesse watters, uber feminist. first and last time you'll hear that. here is harvey talking to reporters. >> i'm not doing okay. i've got to get help. you know what, we all make mistakes. >> greg: what i love, he uses lingo like second chance.

i think he is befuddled by all the attention because it's been accepted for so long. wait a second. i am harvey. this is what harvey did. i used to open the door with my bathrobe open. don't you know that? >> dana: i find the whole, all of a second he realizes he needs help, all of a sudden? he said i will dedicate my time to the nra hoping it would get him off. >> greg: thank you. >> dana: help me, kimberly. are there criminal charges that could be filed? >> greg: the nypd is investigating two cases. scotland yard is looking at a case. >> dana: kimberly. >> greg: did have harvey weinstein contact you? >> kimberly: i was asked that

today. i think he is trying to engender some public sympathy. i do think there are criminal prosecutions being looked at. especially given the number of alleged victims and people who have come forward to say not just horrific harassment but sexual misconduct, sexual assault or sexual battery. a variety of charges. a case like this, what i would do to try to preserve the secrecy of it, if i was a prosecutor. i wouldn't channel a grand jury to hear some witnesses and the target of the grand jury, in this case mr. weinstein comeau would be able to proffer evidence on his behalf. that's what i think, the discussions behind the scenes. it's not just new york and scotland yard.

it's also los angeles district attorney's office as well. there's a number of jurisdictional issues. >> greg: juan, weinstein was one of the early supporters of roman polanski. i'm sure he's thinking you had meryl streep giving a standing oh. why are they turning on me? >> juan: we just saw him on video waiting. the police were called because of some kind of problem. we know his wife has left him. apparently he got into an argument with the daughter. we don't all the details but apparently the police were called to the house. >> greg: something about suicidal thoughts. >> juan: we don't know. that could be a spin. the second part that's fascinating me.

he then turns the paparazzi and says hey, you guys, you know me. i've always been good to you guys. democratic politicians, i've been giving you money. hey, media. i helped you get access to some of these stars in key moments. i thought that's a revealing moment for harvey weinstein's mind that he thinks even with paparazzi who are getting your face when the world's crumbling a new that he can say here's how i deal with you. here's how i make my appeal. i think this is about bad behavior by males who like sex generally but by politically powerful men or powerful corporate men. it becomes their prerogative to do what they want to do. if you have women who have

ambitions who want to come up to the hotel room, they think they can get away with it and he got away with it. to make fun of hillary clinton, i don't see it. she has a problem with her husband who crossed many lines and so she has a personal issue. i think lots of women were saying you know what, what's that famous country music song, "stand by your man." that's a personal issue and i would stay away from it. policy issue, gun control. >> greg: hollywood has spent most of their lives judging our behavior. we are immoral if our climate footprint is too large. if we voted for trump, we are deplorable. they make politics personal. you saw eminem say if you are a fan of trump i don't want you listening to my music. there are actors who say if you voted for trump, i don't want you watching my movies.

they have more hate for trump than they do for isis. >> juan: wait a second. what if they say we disagree. they are using their platform as celebrities, to say what they think and you don't like it. you are libertarian or conservative. i don't see that that says to us or conservatives the light and the fact that harvey weinstein was a democratic donor. >> greg: mitt romney had a binder full of women and they demonized him. >> juan: they mocked him for saying he had a binder full of women. what do you say about trump? should everyone on the republican side send their money back? >> jesse: when bill was having problems with a lot of different women, hillary didn't believe any of them. they were all out for this, out for that. she tried to spin it. but when all these women come forward with harvey weinstein, she believes every single one of them.

and harvey is a bad guy. either women are to be believed or they are not. hillary changed her story. >> jesse: you are much younger and better looking than i am. >> jesse: thank you. you don't need to go any further. >> juan: people, women. i say this with feeling. women oftentimes defend their husbands and try to keep their families together and will go to extremes. >> jesse: every woman has her own personal decision they're going to have to make. i am saying the way hillary conduct yourself changed depending on the policy. >> kimberly: she is under tremendous pressure because everyone was coming after her. >> juan: the late-night comedians that you love to mock, they made so much fun of bill clinton. >> greg: nothing about this guy yet. let me ask dana, we are hearing

about the actresses who generally have more power than a lot of women in hollywood. what about the pas, caterers, gaffer's, hair and makeup people who can't say anything because they will be fired. >> dana: they probably don't have the network that would allow you to be able to walk away from a job. the ongoing legal problems are going to be huge. i think the board members are going to have to answer for a lot of it because if it was such an open secret and the payoffs were happening three years ago and they knew about it, then it's possible they would be liable legally. >> greg: i am banning open secret. if it's a open secret, it's not a secret. president trump taking executive action today to try to eliminate obamacare. will it hold up in court? that's next. impossible to ignore.

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♪ >> dana: president trump taking a new approach to dismantling obamacare. today mr. trump signed an executive order aiming to make a lower premium insurance plans

available to more americans. >> the competition will be staggering. insurance companies will be fighting to get every single person signed up. and you'll be hopefully negotiating, negotiating, negotiating and you will get such low prices for such great care. should have been done a long time ago, and it could have been gone a long time ago. >> dana: rand paul praised the move. >> today is a big day. president trump is doing what i believe is the biggest free-market reform of health care in a generation. this reform, if it works and goes as planned, will allow millions of people to get insurance across state lines and an inexpensive price. i'm very glad to be part of this and i really want to commend the president for having the boldness and leadership and foresight to get it done. >> dana: jesse, these kind of

health plans have been talked about for years. let's say you belong to an association like the farm bureau or some sort of, i don't know, association of baseball players or something. you can get together. before you could only buy health insurance in the state where you were. the president is saying why should people be able to buy across state lines? traditional insurance companies are probably going to hate this but innovative ones or places like aflac will probably like it. >> jesse: aflac. when trump was in the campaign, we know he's not a policy wonk when it comes to health care. the one thing he said during the debate, the competition around the lines, do the thing with the finger. this is that. finally, choice and competition. it brings prices down. before, obamacare loaded up these plans with these mandates. if you are healthy, single, 28-year-old male coming up to pay for an expensive plan that has aromatherapy and maternity care. you don't have that anymore. when consumers go shopping, they

like lots of choices and better prices when they are looking for clothes. why can't we do that with health care? trump takes out the pendant does it. >> dana: i guess it's possible you could take what president trump did today, signed executive order and asked the congress to pass that and make it law. you have rand paul who didn't want the previous piece which this could have been part of. >> greg: but he got a free pen. sometimes that's all it takes. a free pen and a lollipop. everybody accuses trump of being an autocrat, a tyrant who wants to do what he wants to do. but if this order allows for more choice, not less, how is it autocratic? autocrats narrow choices. this is the opposite of obamacare in the sense that obamacare forces you to do something. with this is saying is no, here's more. if you don't like it, then you are antichoice. it's very pro-choice.

i think it's really good. guy in a motorcycle in a traffic jam decides to weave through the cars, get past congress, get in there. forget those lines. >> dana: juan, i know you're probably not happy with this. part of the criticism. >> juan: i don't believe you just said this. because trump acted by fiat. >> greg: exactly like obama. >> juan: you are cursing out obama. now here he comes. this is great. this is great. >> greg: can't have that argument. >> dana: he is saying -- >> juan: let me tell you. this has been tried before. 1988 to 1991. so-called multiple employment welfare arrangements. and guess what happened? there was regulatory confusion, fraud. outright fraud. >> jesse: sounds like obamacare. >> kimberly: crashing.

>> juan: the thing jesse was talking about, crossing straight lines. state regulatory agencies didn't know how to enforce it and the result was you had half a million people with over $100 million in unpaid claims. you know what he's doing? he is stop attaching -- sabotaging obamacare. he is trying to ruin it for you. >> jesse: already ruined. >> juan: not ruined. why don't republicans work with democrats and come up with something? >> kimberly: they don't want to do it. they don't want to come across lines. now the president had to go across state lines and do it himself. it's really true. he called chuck schumer, nancy pelosi. let's see what we can do. try to have a bipartisan approach to see what we can do in they said no. >> juan: there are democrats and republicans working

together. >> kimberly: there are some. they've been trying and trying, the little engine that could. not making it up the hill. >> dana: this is, now they go to the right rule. the president added a paragraph about hospital consolidation which is what the real driver of costs. perhaps we could have a conversation about that issue. >> greg: you know it's fun, crossing state lines. don't you get excited? it's like you feel like something happened. >> dana: have you ever gone to the four corners? >> greg: i have. >> dana: north american family released by the taliban after five years of captivity. details next. does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, you can embrace the chance of completely clear skin with taltz. taltz is proven to give you a chance at completely clear skin.

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♪ >> jesse: pakistan has long granted safe haven to terrorists, causing strain in

our relationship. but it has just won praise from president trump. this alone the bod has helped secure the release of an american canadian family held hostage by a taliban group for five years. here was the president on the development. >> the pakistani government's cooperation is a sign it's honoring america's wish that it do more to provide security in the region. i want to thank the pakistani government. i believe they are starting to respect the united states again. it's very important. i think a lot of countries right now are starting to respect the united states of america once again. we hope to see this type of cooperation and teamwork in helping secure the release of remaining hostages and in our future joint counterterrorism operations. >> jesse: very strange twist of the story. let's bring in national security

correspondent jennifer griffin with more details. >> the u.s. military had hoped to fly caitlan coleman, her husband, and their three children out of pakistan shortly after their release. u.s. officials tell me that her husband would not board the u.s. military flight because he feared being arrested by the u.s. government and perhaps sent to guantanamo bay. he was adamant he wanted to fly to canada on a private plane instead. he was married previously to the sister of a former gitmo prisoner, also a canadian. the release of coleman, her husband, and their children, all born in captivity, took place inside cap -- pakistan. coleman and her husband were hiking outside kabul. she was seven months pregnant. the family was held for five years by a taliban offshoot with

ties to pakistan's intelligence service. the family was last seen in this hostage video in december pleading for then president obama to help them. don't become another jimmy carter, coleman begged. two more american hostages are being held by the same cell, i'm told. last year navy seals attended to rescue an american professor in eastern afghanistan and a man from massachusetts. they are both still being held. u.s. officials tell me this was a negotiated released today, not a military rescue by either the u.s. or pakistani military. state department has been pressuring the pakistani government to use its influence on the group. >> jesse: thanks, jennifer. and a lot of intriguing elements. what surprises you? >> greg: it seems straightforward but there are so many where things going on. married to somebody related to a gitmo dude and somehow related to someone who was pro-al qaeda. so many strange things.

i don't want to pass any judgment on the fact that they might be protected to be -- pretending to be hostages. i'm not going to say that. what i find interesting -- i'm not going to say that. we were withholding military aid to pakistan and i find it strange that we supply pakistan with military aid. that is like paying someone else's child support. i don't understand. can someone explain? >> dana: you have to pay the child-support of somebody else's child if they have nuclear weapons and if they are really important to make sure your own national security is protected and because you have a situation where pakistan has bent the godfather of these different types of networks, including the taliban. one thing -- here's the other thing. >> greg: why doesn't he want to go to america? >> jesse: why was he hiking

with his pregnant wife in pakistan? >> dana: there is some judgment that could be passed. however, they were held for five years. who knows how they were treated or their state of mind or what they might know? no one has been sent to gitmo in nine or ten years. what president trump did initially, in the first two months of office, threaten to pakistan. we are going to take this aid away if you don't help us. finally able to get a tip as to where these people were. complication for the others being held in pakistan right now is that the trade -- we traded. we found out where they were. we said turn them over. help us out. the bergdahl trade continues to haunt us. they look pretty good. >> greg: they were born in captivity. >> kimberly: obviously that's a very disturbing situation. i think it's admirable what the

state department and president trump was able to pull off and make sure to bring them home. now we will examine it further and see what questions can be answered about the time prior that they were held in captivity. there are some questions being raised as to whether or not they were radicalized before they were captured. of course there is the husband and his wife's brother, et cetera, previous whites brother. it a lot of things need to be studied and i'm sure they will get to the bottom of it. >> jesse: the president and his team deserve a lot of credit. they have secured the release of very many hostages. >> juan: we have two more sitting there. let's get to it. the two professors at the american university in kabul. kevin king in ten weeks. let's hope this is a precursor to their release. you don't want anybody in that situation. the idea that this family was

held there and potentially abused by the captors. we are talking about whether they were brainwashed. physically abused? these poor kids. who would want to have children born and raised in that situation? the mother said it was it was a kafka-esque nightmare. i think that's the best way to put it. i think it's outrageous, and to me that pakistanis, i don't get them at all. this is the tip of the iceberg with the pakistanis. tolerating terrorists, especially muslim extremists. and then turning their backs on the united states and saying well, we are just trying to hold it together over here. >> greg: i don't know why we are giving them money. >> juan: dana explained in detail. the large point on what dana said was they have nukes that we want to make sure we have some controls in place because as you know, they've been sending information on how to create your own nukes to other places. >> jesse: thank god the nightmare is finally over for

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♪ >> juan: president trump going after the media, trashing nbc news for its reports, suggesting he called for a bigger u.s. nuclear arsenal. the president tweeting: his own chief of staff coming out to address reports about him in the media. here is john kelly. >> i will offer to you that although i read it all the time, pretty consistently, i am not quitting today. i don't believe come and i just

talked to the president. i don't think i'm being fired today. and i'm not so frustrated in this job i'm thinking of leaving. my only frustration with all due respect to everyone in the room is when i come to work in the morning and read about things i allegedly said or things mr. trump allegedly said or people who are going to be fired or whatever else, it's just not true. >> juan: this is part of a big story because the president is upset not only about reports about an increase in the nuclear arsenal which of course is not true. secondly about the chaos of the white house specifically having to do with kelly and the national security advisor mattis being potentially very unhappy. a suicide pact where one is

leaving, they are all leaving. then we heard -- bob corker. >> dana: the president goes on s of anger at the american press to say "frankly disgusting the prices able to write whatever they want." >> kimberly: they don't want to be called out for it. the fact that they wrote these stories, with the president said, your sources aren't correct. what i think was good here is general kelly went and kind of took the podium and address the statement, the rumors, the sources. we don't know 100% what's going on behind the scenes and whether or not there is discord and discontent. seems that as if this ship has been righted. i take him at his word that he's not going to resign today.

tomorrow is a whole new day. we will see what happens. i think it's definitely -- it's stressful over there. >> juan: sender ben sasse, the senator from nebraska, said in a tweet that "the president has an oath to uphold the constitution." talking about first amendment press rights. then you have jeb bush retreating re- re-tweeting ben sasse. >> jesse: jeb always attacks trump. where was he against hillary? trump is bating the media and they take it every time. the country loves that when the media gets bashed in the media has to report on it. if you are in the airport watching cnn and you think trump is bashing the media, you either

cheer trump or see pundits feeling sorry about themselves. lead is a lose-those for the media. ratings go down because people don't want to hear pundits wine on television. the only thing trump wants them to do is not keep pushing fake news. yes, he's very sensitive. we all know that. yes, he brings a gun to a knife fight. we all know that. he's going to protect his branded he's going to respond. the media is the same way. they are just as sensitive. they are hypersensitive. i don't know who enjoys attacking each other more, trump or the media. i don't see how this gets any better. >> juan: i think there is fear there is an authoritarian move, reminding what nixon did to "the washington post" during the watergate investigation. even one of our colleagues, bret baier, said this is way over the top. >> dana: i thought general kelly had a good way of pushing back on the media today

where he said i trust all of you do have sources. i'm just telling you you probably have low-level sources and you need to get some better sources. he wasn't saying they are making stuff up because i don't think they are. someone is telling them this. nbc as a network doesn't even have a license. that doesn't make sense. >> juan: you could do locally owned. that's what richard nixon did. >> dana: i think in terms of numbers, the ratings for everybody are up. newspaper sales are up and trust in the media is actually up. president trump's approval ratings are going up. it's true no one is actually getting anything out of this unless everyone is getting a little bit of something. >> jesse: i am just saying cnn whining about getting attacked by the president, that's on every day. >> juan: greg, joe scarborough says this reminds him of trump, "channeling chairman mao and joseph's talent."

>> greg: he moved on from hitler. what about chi minh? here you have people claiming trump is trying to stop speech. the left literally shutting down speech. >> dana: because -- >> greg: i quote scott at us a lot that i've been talking about the difference between words and deeds. the press is talking about words words. they are not doing stories on consequences on trump's actions. no one noticed when he rolled back the paris accords. no one noticed when he's dealing with china or north korea or isis. bad things aren't happening. you can't do those articles. you can't do the articles and the consequence of trump's actions. instead you have to engage in these conflicts because they

can't address his effectiveness. that's interesting. >> juan: you think the press made this up? that trump didn't tweet it? >> greg: i think they love it. >> juan: i think trump is up to something. the boy scouts will soon admit young ladies in a historic shift. the girl scouts aren't happy about it.

♪ >> kimberly: welcome back. in a major shift, the boy scouts of america will be fully inclusive for girls for the first time in its nearly 100 year history. this decision would let girls into the cub scouts and eventually allow them to earn the eagle scout ranking. not everyone is happy about it, specifically the girl scouts of america, claiming the division, "the boy scouts houses on fire. instead of addressing systemic issues of continuing sexual assault, financial mismanagement and deficient programming, senior management wants to add and accelerate to the house fire by recruiting girls." and we thought they were talking about weinstein for a second. what do you make of this, greg? you are very into children's issues. >> greg: i am.

they have not gone far enough. forget gender restrictions. what about age restrictions? i want to be a girl scout. i want to be a brownie. i look great in green. i like to sell cookies. eliminate the gender differences, you could eliminate age differences. don't be ageist. if i want to be in a group with children, that should be my prerogative. i don't think we have gone far enough. "sports illustrated" swimsuit issue. not one dude in it. that is a sexist enterprise. we should integrate every single thing. >> kimberly: okay. would you like to volunteer to try out for "sports illustrated "sports illustrated"? >> dana: he just wants to join the boy scouts. >> greg: no, girl scouts. >> dana: i understand there, fewer girls are going into the scouts. cub scouts, eagle scout

designation, you learn a lot. you grow, mature. those people end up becoming really good leaders, join the military run for congress, participants in the world. i can see why you might want to have something for girls that's the same sort of thing. i don't think it has to be the boy scouts. >> jesse: i want them to leave the girl scout cookies alone. don't mess with the recipe. are the boys going to be making cookies now? i am a little concerned about that. as long as the cookies are the same, i'm okay with it. >> kimberly: all right. >> juan: that statement from the girl scouts girl scouts, wow. talk about setting the house on fire. they are furious of the boy scouts. they say the boy scouts are losing numbers but the boy scouts and i think this is more the record that the girl scouts have seen declining numbers. it feels as if this is antiquated institution on both

parts. people say my kids can find these activities on their own. >> kimberly: dana and i encourage all the young woman out there to go to the campfire girls because we were both bluebirds. >> greg: i want to be a bluebird. >> kimberly: i don't think so. to be seven is next. "one more thing" is next.

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my mom is a liberal democrat. she sometimes texts me during the show. were going to be reading some of these. here we go. "i cannot and will not identify myself as the mother of trump's wing man. change it out. you are on fantasy island and don't make statements about what i as a democrat want." >> juan: we love you, mom. >> greg: that's amazing. those are real. >> jesse: they are real. >> dana: great new feature. >> greg: i have nothing quite as good, although...

that's adorable. we have the video. two black bears in a family's yard. they are playing with a soccer ball. it's adorable when animals do things humans do until you picture the ball as a human being. there is nothing adorable about black bears. they will rip you to shreds. stop thinking they are cute because they are playing with a ball. that could be your severed head. >> juan: thanks. on tuesday i gave a speech at the hamilton campus of miami university of ohio. next year will be 20 years since my biography of justice marshall was published. there is a resurgent of interest in the first african-american on the supreme court. this month marks the 50th anniversary of his taking the bench. "time" magazine has released a special edition. not a month goes by in 20 years i don't get questions about justice marshall. they want to know about brown

versus board of education, how he set the framework for race relations in america today. >> kimberly: i wanted to share this with somebody i met two i really admire who was a former marine and vietnam war veteran. he's incredibly clever and a great writer. his book is called "bits and pieces." it's an opinionated piece about american culture and politics in a left-wing, politically correct world. the first entry. >> dana: my "one more thing" fell through. i'm waiting for richard. i'm going to bring it to you tomorrow. i'm gonna promote tomorrow's show. i will have kimberly guilfoyle, ed gillespie tomorrow.

>> kimberly: i love ed and ian ian. >> greg: set your dvrs. never miss an episode of "the five." something called "special report" is up next. the one for the first time, president trump's chief of staff goes on the record about his job at the white house. reports he is frustrated. the media and aid for puerto rico. this is "special report" ." good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. it is hard work, that from president trump's chief of staff, saying his role as the toughest job is ever had but he is up for the challenge and is not going anywhere. general john kelly making a surprise appearance before the press today for the first time since he took the job at the white house answering important policy questions while also